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CheeseXman wrote:it will increase xray mods on the server. The way to stop that is to add a plugin that doesn't let xray work but i doubt u want to do that.
xray is another part of the problem with the current ecconomy, infact any mod that allow simpler way to get materials are kinda pointless and destruptive game wise, wich is why its against the rules. Someone will always cheat or find the means to cheat. Best we can do is to prevent them to do so, if someone suddenly after a few days have too much stuff we can always check with our tools and remove them.
We can also block xray with a plugin and is not really an issue if it was implemented. So far, we have had very few cases with xray since we seem to find them eventualy anyway.
Why you 'want' xray on the server makes little sense.
CheeseXman wrote:I like the idea of getting a new shop type but i dont think this is the one that will make people happy. There has to be another way to get money besides mining for gold because i know that no one enjoys mining for gold or any item. Its just a Freaking waste of time. If you find another way to get money with this than i might be a little more in favor but if the only way to get money is to mine than im pretty sure that the economy wont do the best considering that no one likes to mine and barely anyone does mine. Try to find another way to get money but if that doesn't work then lets look at other economy possibilities.
Alternatives I have seen in minecraft so far are (in short):
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physical economy: sell for money, or trade a spesific item/block <-- topic of thread
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basic virtual economy: current setup, has gain from a source, in our case: mobs but can include payday, pvp or a job system.
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advanced virual economy: almost like current setup, but with more advanced ways of money handling like taxes, upkeeps and several ways to gain/lose money.
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limited virtual economy: involves haveing fixed 'x' ammount of money on a server at the time and no gains from any source. Players get money through admin til it runs dry, leaveing players to trade with what they have.
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item/block ecconomy: bartering only, trade A for B | Also the simplest way to go as its almost pure vanilla.
Im sure there are other ways, but thats just it, how advanced do you want to go? Besides, if you dont want to mine, why play minecraft? it's a sandbox block building game at its core, with a few new elements towards adventure. Part of wich involves mining. If you think its boreing, there are other better games out there to entertain yourself with.
Personaly im all for money by pvp, but from reading the rest here this is not something you would like (its also pretty easy to abuse.)
Other than that, no money at all also works fine.
If ppl complain enough sure, find another solution, thing is. we have already had complains on the current way things are (we have had complains for awhile) and need to find another solution. Sadly, how to implement it in a simple manner is another story.
CheeseXman wrote:If you look at the servers that use the gold currency, almost all of them are pvp servers. These servers dont rely on economy to keep the people playing, they use pvp to keep their members playing. Servers like freeds need a more stable economy than pvp servers because servers like freeds depend on economy a lot more than pvp servers. economy is a big factor on servers like freeds and they need a more dependable economy than pvp servres and that economy is not gold economy in my opinion.
Now you don't make any sense. we currently do NOT have a stable ecconomy. Quite frankly you dont even need freed to get around since there are no taxes or upkeep of any sort to drain it. A random guy with enough time on his hands can make alot of money in no time with a shop or enough mining. It's simple and not a big enough challenge. But heh, money has an extremly limited use on the server anyway, not really a harm but would lead to insane prices by players like before the last map change.
As for PVP, Cooperation gets boreing without any challenges you could say. Last time i checked, freeds is also an PVP server.
Bottomline: there is no easy way to solve this. 90% if all minecraft servers out there have the same issue as we do, maybe a bit worse even. Some don't even bother to use one at all.
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