New Map?

PatrickFreed wrote:Prior to the merge, I had taken a loss nearly every single month, including a month where I got $0 in donations.

That is, believe it or not, not OUR fault. In fact, we, the remaining Freedians still playing here, have done everything we can to try to keep this server on its feet. The thing is, because of poor management (and who's fault would that be?), we had lost so many players and gained so few that we really couldn't support ourselves. Coming off this note, bull shit this was not a financial thing. You clearly are upset about your personal financial loss (which you have all the right to be), and this is an easy way to recover. If you were going to do something because you felt you owed them, you would have let them die quickly instead of dragging them in here to have their dreams slowly ground into the dirt by your style of running things.

PatrickFreed wrote:If you really want to spit the countless hours I've put into this into my face, fine. Do it. Knowing that I put in effort myself and that is all that matters to me.

I'm not spitting it in your face. I acknowledge that you have done a lot for the server at some time in the far past have been doing some stuff recently. That does not, however, excuse you from doing more work. That is not how the job of running a server works. You have to be ready to continue to always put your all in, and to keep up with demands. You have to always be ready to listen to people's ideas, always take the time to think things through and take the effort to implement things. You have to be constantly checking in to see what's broken and to see what people think could be better. There is no extended break time with a job like yours. So, if you cannot even promise that you will implement the ideas that are currently being drafted, it is high time for you to start looking for a replacement.

Well if the players want an entirely new map, as in no builds copied over, there really isn't any reason not to. (double negatives...yay)
Anyways, I'll admit the last map switch was handled pretty poorly. I was just tired of sitting around twiddling my thumbs (as in that was most people were angry at me for anyways) so I just did it.

The reason I do not want to do a reset is I don't want to lose any players who stuck around for the latest (Thefuture) map or players coming from Orc who wanted things kept the same as they were before. I've tried my best to emulate the orc server on ours whilst keeping the old setup running but apparently that isn't working out too well.

Anyways, sorry for the short tempered moppy bullshit, I'm running on an average of < 5 hours of sleep a day.

In that case, best get planning then xD.

Main points so far:

1. Need a new spawn
2. Need to implement those tournies (not the paid ones, yet at least)
3. The economy is in the shit, so we need to do a complete rework of that.
4. Need to fully integrate the two servers
5. Make staff be more active somehow >_>
6. Fix bugs and all that (I'll learn 'bout plugin config and all that from burn so I can help with some of the easy shit)
7. Build some spleef and war arenas
8. Maybe some suggestions for new plugins
9. Anything else I've missed out

Yeah this may end up actually taking until like 1.5, but as long as there's progress going on we're in the business, I mean we don't even know when 1.5 is coming so may as well start immediately. Hopefully we can get a good few people working on things so it doesn't all depend on like 3 people xD, like when we were building spawn for the old freedmap there was a good 7 people working on it, it was great.

If we need help outside of staff however, don't go being all 'PICK ME PICK ME, I CAN HELP PLZZZZZZZZZ' because that basically will guarantee that you will never help... ever.

So yeah, I'mma go plan shit like tournies, spleef arenas and maybe try and get an idea on item prices (if we completely change the economy style), while the server's on 1.4.2. Oh, and go dive up Burn's arse to get him to host a server so we can build a spawn.

Now someone go make a list of staff members, valued players and $75+ donators >_>, dem statues... *cringe*.

Fine.
I hosted it last time, might as well do it one more time. This time however, it's my terms and your ideas.
pat/Bob/staff/mods/whomever will handle the details, I forwared my demands to bob so he can tell whomever will be working on that project. Assmuing it will take place at all.
I only advice to keep it simple and make it reusable. Avoid traps like complexitivety and think of it more like a foundation to something complex later on (in example, include player builds later)
Only con is that time will be limited as I have my own needs as well...

You will also need to include members from orc and not just freedans. Im sure they are crafty builders given the right motivation.

Boblobster wrote:In that case, best get planning then xD.
Now someone go make a list of staff members, valued players and $75+ donators >_>, dem statues... *cringe*.

You can't just copy and paste the statues onto the new spawn?

Yeah but even then there's all the new Orc staff and the VIPs and all that. So there's still a few others regardless.

Boblobster wrote:Yeah but even then there's all the new Orc staff and the VIPs and all that. So there's still a few others regardless.

You shouldn't include statues in spawn; make an entirely different place somewhere out there for them or something, because there still weren't enough in the most recent spawn.

that's what the islands are for, can add more much easier compared to having walls and shit

Boblobster wrote:Pat gave me the map download to the staff 'fuck about' place from before, so I'll probs finish the spawn me and Dan started for it, if Dan can get on with hamachi atleast >_> dat Welsh net

I can host the map probs if need be.

Naa we're gonna start completely fresh i think, easier and the underground thing we started would be really difficult to copy (in comparison to the sky island thing).

Soo a new map in 1.5?

does the server have an new ip?

freedsuniverse.com

is the server updated?

add the server to ur ip list and u see the version

first the server has to update
and a question, will there be a dday?

A day? Or... d-day?

d-day
when there was a new map we got to fly around and blow stuff up, set stuff on fire, and spawn shit (Fuck up the map).

173penguin wrote:d-day
when there was a new map we got to fly around and blow stuff up, set stuff on fire, and spawn shit (Fuck up the map).

More specifically, we use the old map as a vanilla temp map, and rip it to shreds until the Plugins update. May be a little weird this time around, considering there are two maps now.

Twice the destruction, I say.

Come doomsday I'll see if I can find a plugin for mass destruction (arrows + tnt?) and see how long it takes you guys to destroy it and/or crash the server.

I like dat idea

Yayy lol